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Author: dovijacobs

Description:
In preparation for language domains, Wikisource users reached the following
consensus about links between projects and languages. The problem: Can this be
implemented, and if not then what needs to be changed?

The consensus:

  1. Languages: Links between languages should work the same way they do in the

other multilingual projects (Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikiquote, Wiktionary,
Wikinews). However, there must be one extra element in Wikisource that doesn't
exist in the other projects, namely a special neutral link to the original wiki
here at wikisource.org. For instance, while "fr:" links to French and "de:" to
German, we would also need another code (e.g. "xx:" or "s:" [see below]) to link
to the main wikisource.org '''instead of''' a regular language prefix. '''Note:
These language links do not currently work at [[:hewikisource:|Hebrew
Wikisource]], but instead point to Wikipedias.'''

  1. Links between projects: As in other projects, there should be a simple code

to use for linking between Wikisource in a specific language such as French to
all the other projects in French (e.g. "w:" for Wikipedia or "n:" for Wikinews).
The strong preference at Wikisource is to simply use the single letter "s:" (as
in "source", similar to "b:" for wikibooks and "q:" for Wikiquote). Project
links ("w:", "b:", etc.) will need to point to projects in the same language,
but '''this does not currently work at [[:hewikisoruce:|Hebrew Wikisource]].'''

  1. "Hard" links: The current hard links are "wikisource:" for Wikisource and

"hewikisource:" for Hebrew Wikisource. The Wikisource community would prefer
simply "s:" for Wikisource and "hes:", "ens:", "des:", etc. for the language
editions.

Further information can be found at:

http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Language_domain_requests#Interwiki_links


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Severity: normal
URL: http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Language_domain_requests&oldid=125437#Interwiki_links

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dovijacobs wrote:

(In reply to comment #0)

In preparation for language domains, Wikisource users reached the following
consensus about links between projects and languages. The problem: Can this be
implemented, and if not then what needs to be changed?

The consensus:

  1. Languages: Links between languages should work the same way they do in the

other multilingual projects (Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikiquote, Wiktionary,
Wikinews). However, there must be one extra element in Wikisource that doesn't
exist in the other projects, namely a special neutral link to the original wiki
here at wikisource.org. For instance, while "fr:" links to French and "de:" to
German, we would also need another code (e.g. "xx:" or "s:" [see below]) to link
to the main wikisource.org '''instead of''' a regular language prefix.

*Note:

These language links do not currently work at Hebrew
Wikisource, but instead point to Wikipedias.*

  1. Links between projects: As in other projects, there should be a simple code

to use for linking between Wikisource in a specific language such as French to
all the other projects in French (e.g. "w:" for Wikipedia or "n:" for Wikinews).
The strong preference at Wikisource is to simply use the single letter "s:" (as
in "source", similar to "b:" for wikibooks and "q:" for Wikiquote). Project
links ("w:", "b:", etc.) will need to point to projects in the same language,
but this does not currently work at Hebrew Wikisource.

  1. "Hard" links: The current hard links are "wikisource:" for Wikisource and

"hewikisource:" for Hebrew Wikisource. The Wikisource community would prefer
simply "s:" for Wikisource and "hes:", "ens:", "des:", etc. for the language
editions.

Further information can be found at:

http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Language_domain_requests#Interwiki_links

thomasV1 wrote:

isn't that fixed now?

klaasvanbe wrote:

More common is s:en, s:nl etc. and as far as I've seen this works well.

Yeah, I don't think this is a problem anymore. It was initially proposed be we had no way to get to the
Multi-lingual WS, but using oldwikisource:foo, DOES get us there. This bug is outdated.

gangleri wrote:

(In reply to comment #4)

... This bug is outdated.

Hallo!

Changed url to permanent link.

a) Please do not change the resolution to WORKSFORME or FIXED without providing
details how this works / what is implemented.
b) Please let us all know if there is a way to make interwiki links to
http://wikisource.org/ from the xx.wikisource.org projects or not. I would
prefer prefixes as www: or home:
c) bug 4322: provide interwiki link to http://wikisource.org/
is not coved by the summary of this bug. It might be that the answer to b) is
the same as in bug 4322 .

Thanks in advance!

best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]

P.S. This is speculative: I think that the interwiki "hewikisource" was used
because of some bugs related to interwiki links trough the en.wikipedia.org gateway:

bug 65: Links mixing latin1 literal characters and entities produce bad UTF-8
bug 2303: interwiki links to wikimedia foundation wiki's fail if they contain
UTF-8 characters etc.

The lasts known to me was RTL specific:
bug 2342: w:he:(aleph) is a valid interwiki link at en: but not at other wiki's

gangleri wrote:

(In reply to comment #0)

These language links do not currently work at [[:hewikisource:|Hebrew
Wikisource]], but instead point to Wikipedias.'''

Please use underscores instead of "space"'s. The wrap around feature of
MediaZilla brakes the wikifikation. Please do not use pipes in MediaZilla:
Examples:
use [[hewikisource:]] not [[:hewikisource:|Hebrew_Wikisource]]

(In reply to comment #4)

... but using oldwikisource:foo ...

Please use MediaZilla's wikifikation: [[oldwikisource:foo]]. The comments are
easier to read and such links can be verified here directly without going to the
project.

(In reply to comment #5)

c) bug 4322: provide interwiki link to http://wikisource.org/

Is fixed now. The interwiki link is [[oldwikisource:]]. Thanks all!

I think that the "Status" of this bug changed to FIXED if the interwiki links at
[[wikisource:he:]] ([[hewikisource:]] work as all others .