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Would one of the devs be able to /dev/null the mail invitations from LinkedIn that make the mailing lists? There are some simple lines in the headers that would enable the mail to flicked either globally by the mail server, or presumably by the list software.

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bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Needs Triage.Nov 21 2014, 11:27 PM
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bugs wrote:

It's also possible to request LinkedIn blacklist the list address and add it to their "do not contact" list. You can do that by contacting their customer service. Adrignola recently did this for all of the OTRS addresses. It's a pretty simple and straight-forward process.

I tried to ask LinkedIn's customer service a few weeks ago if they could blacklist the entire lists.wikimedia.org domain, but they said they could only block specific addresses and not an entire domain. You could send them a list of the lists you want them to block though, and I'm sure they'd be okay with handling it.

It's a lot better to handle this issue by stopping the mails at the source rather than dealing with them after they're already here.

(In reply to comment #1)

I tried to ask LinkedIn's customer service a few weeks ago if they could
blacklist the entire lists.wikimedia.org domain, but they said they could only
block specific addresses and not an entire domain. You could send them a list
of the lists you want them to block though, and I'm sure they'd be okay with
handling it.

quick and easily list of all our public listed lists (according to the MM interface) so who ever wants can send it in:

Accounts-enwiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Ambassador-announce-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Best-practices@lists.wikimedia.org
Bilderberg-l@lists.wikimedia.org
BLP_Task_Force@lists.wikimedia.org
Bureaucrats-nl-wikipedia@lists.wikimedia.org
Car-fr-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Chapters-reports@lists.wikimedia.org
CheckUser-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Chip-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Commons-poty@lists.wikimedia.org
ComProj@lists.wikimedia.org
Contact-nl@lists.wikimedia.org
Crc-es-l@lists.wikimedia.org
CVN@lists.wikimedia.org
CVN-private@lists.wikimedia.org
Daily-article-l@lists.wikimedia.org
daily-image-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Destacado-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Devnations-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Education@lists.wikimedia.org
Egyptopedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Exyu-tech@lists.wikimedia.org
foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Foundation-news-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Functionaries-en@lists.wikimedia.org
Fundraising-DE@lists.wikimedia.org
Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Gozetmen@lists.wikimedia.org
greenspun-illustrations@lists.wikimedia.org
Incubator@lists.wikimedia.org
InfoBG-L@lists.wikimedia.org
Langcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Langcom-observers@lists.wikimedia.org
Libraries@lists.wikimedia.org
Maps-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Mediation-en-l@lists.wikimedia.org
MediaWiki-announce@lists.wikimedia.org
Mediawiki-api@lists.wikimedia.org
Mediawiki-api-announce@lists.wikimedia.org
MediaWiki-CodeReview@lists.wikimedia.org
MediaWiki-CVS@lists.wikimedia.org
Mediawiki-enterprise@lists.wikimedia.org
Mediawiki-i18n@lists.wikimedia.org
MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Mediawiki-sv@lists.wikimedia.org
MetaVid-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Mobile-feedback-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Mobile-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Moderators-nl@lists.wikimedia.org
Museum-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Newprojects@lists.wikimedia.org
Offline-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Online-Ambassadors-EN@lists.wikimedia.org
Otrs-de-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Otrs-en-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Otrs-es@lists.wikimedia.org
Otrs-fr@lists.wikimedia.org
Otrs-it-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Otrs-ja@lists.wikimedia.org
Otrs-ru@lists.wikimedia.org
Oversight-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Oversight-request-fiwiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Oversight-wp-simple@lists.wikimedia.org
Press-nl@lists.wikimedia.org
Pressemeldungen@lists.wikimedia.org
Privacy-fr-wp@lists.wikimedia.org
Pywikipedia-announce@lists.wikimedia.org
Pywikipedia-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org
Pywikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Pywikipedia-svn@lists.wikimedia.org
Quarto-l@lists.wikimedia.org
RCom-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Stewards-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Texanexes-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Textbook-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Toolserver-announce@lists.wikimedia.org
Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Translators-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unblock-en-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unblock-pt-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unblock-zh@lists.wikimedia.org
VereinAT-l@lists.wikimedia.org
VereinDE-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wiki-hr@lists.wikimedia.org
Wiki-offline-reader-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikials-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiar-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiBEtarask@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiBG-L@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikibooksde-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikibots-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiCA-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiConference-India@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiCS-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiDA-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiDE-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiEL@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiEO-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikies-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikieu-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikifa-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiFI-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikifr-colloque-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiFR-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikihe-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiHI-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikihu-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiid-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiIS-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiIT-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiJA-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikikn-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiKO-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikilb-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimania-planning-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-asia-chapters@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-BD@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-BO@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-boston@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-california@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-CL@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-commits@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-connecticut@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-DC@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-DE-BY@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-en-abuse@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-fi@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-GE@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-il@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-IN-AMD@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-in-blr@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-in-chn@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-in-del@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-in-hyd@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-IN-MLR@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-in-mum@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-in-newsletter@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-in-newsletter-editors@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-IN-PUN@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-in-WB@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-KH@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-mk@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-MX@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-no@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-PH@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-SF@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-SG@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-tr@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-US-GA-ATL@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-US-NYC-Discuss@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-US-OH@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia_NYC@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaAnnounce-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaBE-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaBY@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediach-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediaco-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaCZ-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaDK@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediafr-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediahk@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaHR@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaIE@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediameta-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaMY@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedianl-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaNZ-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediapa-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaPL-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaPT@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediareference-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediaro-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaRS-INFO@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaRU-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaSE-L@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediasr-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaUA@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaZA@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiml-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimy-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikinews-accreditation@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikinews-de-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikinews-FA@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikinews-hotline@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikinews-pl@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikinews-SR-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikinews-zh@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiNL-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikinn-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiNO-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikipedia-BN@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikipedia-FR-Wikimag@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikipedia-OR@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikipedia-PA@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikipedia-sah@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiPL-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiPT@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiquality-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiquote-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiro-l@lists.wikimedia.org
wikiRU-A@lists.wikimedia.org
wikiRU-L@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikisa-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikisk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiskan-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikispecies-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiSV-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikita-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiTe-L@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikitext-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikitr-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiUK-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiur-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiversityde-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikivi-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikivideo-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiX-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikizh-l@lists.wikimedia.org
wiktionary-fr@lists.wikimedia.org
Wiktionary-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WiktionaryDE-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wiktionarypt-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Xmldatadumps-l@lists.wikimedia.org

-shell, anybody with the ambition can reach out to LinkedIn with this list (per Casey's experience with OTRS)

Is it worth getting OTRS to undertake, hence a record is maintained of the communication?

Oh well, this unofficial bunny will try to do so. Let's see if I have success. Thanks for the list.

The LinkedIn corporation is unable to control what they send.
You'll have to stop it on the Wikimedia end of things.
The LinkedIn staff have for months tried for me to stop a weekly reminder to me sent from their servers, but were unable.

They just can't hack it.

(In reply to comment #6)

The LinkedIn corporation is unable to control what they send.
You'll have to stop it on the Wikimedia end of things.
The LinkedIn staff have for months tried for me to stop a weekly reminder to me
sent from their servers, but were unable.

They just can't hack it.

We got them to block e-mails to the OTRS e-mail addresses, I imagine they can do the same for lists.wikimedia.org as well (per the comments above).

jidanni: That is codswallop or poor design. I would even start with discussion that their imitating the user's email address is a poor practice; or a lack of willingness to respond to a single user complaint, ie. you = noise or collateral damage.

They are clueless at the initial level of response is my first comment, they asked for me to do a webshot, I mean FFS! I will keep trying and may even withhold some level of snarky sarcasm. We can just escalate escalate escalate until we find someone clueful.

bugs wrote:

I didn't run into any issues last time I requested it. What did you ask, specifically? Maybe the guy was just confused.

You should say something like "Please stop sending invitations and other e-mails from LinkedIn to the following addresses. They are mailing lists and not individual people. Our lists are getting spammed. List:"

I don't get it, I see member@linkedin.com in the From: header, can't we just blacklist it everywhere?

(In reply to comment #5)

Oh well, this unofficial bunny will try to do so. Let's see if I have success.

I suggest to add to the movement roles group tasks the issue of who should decide who is an official bunny, to help people who want to work like this.

(In reply to comment #8)

We can just escalate escalate escalate until we find someone clueful.

Been there. Done that. I now just put
header J_CANT_STOP Subject =~ /^LinkedIn Network Updates/
score J_CANT_STOP 222
in SpamAssassin and be done with it.

@Casey Brown #9

I pulled out my old postmaster@ hat, and asked so nicely ... I even typed slowly ;-)

<paste>
Subject: Stopping invitations being sent to Mediawiki's mailing lists

...

Wikimedia's mailing lists are getting your invitations as your settings do not distinguish between what is a mailing list, and what is not.

It would be really helpful if you would be able to exclude the mailing lists below from any of your invitation mail outs. Thanks. For detail see the included url.
</paste>

If they need it to come from a more official address, I can get some Ops to do it. or use webmaster@wikimedia.org. Reopen if Andrew's message didn't do the trick.

(In reply to comment #13)
So, sending a email to Linkedin fixed the problem!
If I send an email to Google, maybe that will also fix Google problems.
Same with Facebook.
One little email.
Doesn't matter if they got it.
And even if they did, and promised you the world... with their auto reply system that looks extremely like real people, until the third interaction or so... when you find their messages are the same.

  • Bug 29526 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Some success

...the email addresses provided have been added to our "do not contact" list...

BUT

The following email addresses could not be added as they were confirmed email addresses registered to an active LinkedIn account.

ComProj@lists.wikimedia.org
Daily-article-l@lists.wikimedia.org
foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
MediaWiki-announce@lists.wikimedia.org
MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Unblock-pt-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiar-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimedia-in-blr@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaBR-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaIE@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiNO-l@lists.wikimedia.org
WikiPT@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Wikiversity-l@lists.wikimedia.org

I am going to send emails to each of the listowners and they will have to follow up individually.

aaron.adrignola wrote:

(In reply to comment #16)

Some success

...the email addresses provided have been added to our "do not contact" list...

BUT

The following email addresses could not be added as they were confirmed email
addresses registered to an active LinkedIn account.

Keep in mind that some of those accounts were set up in order to opt-out of the emails, as often people thought that was the only way to opt-out. Of course the settings are quite difficult to get to in the account manager. Why not just provide an opt-out link, LinkedIn?

(In reply to comment #16)

Composing a response off a spam OTRS ticket and altering the subject and destination gets a message sent from a Wikimedia email address. That's what I did as referenced in comment 1.