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"Upload a new version of this file" should refer to a form with different appearance
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Author: ilya.schurov

Description:
Now the link "Upload a new version of this file" on the image page refer to a page with upload form which is identical to a form of initial upload. This lead to misunderstanding, because behaviour of this form is quite different: the content of "summary" goes only to log, and not updates the description of the image. So some users try to change the description of the image (e.g. add {{Image}} template or fair use rationale) by re-uploading the image with proper "summary" field -- and finally lost their data. It seems to be rather serious problem, because current behaviour of this form is contr-intuitive. The lack of description often leads to deleting of the image, which also have negative effect on attitude of contributors which images are deleted.

This can be solved by changing the form of "secondary" upload. We need at least to have different system messages used in this form to explain user the difference of the behaviour. It will be also good to change "summary" field to text input instead of textarea.


Version: unspecified
Severity: enhancement

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Reference
bz15811

Event Timeline

bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Medium.Nov 21 2014, 10:20 PM
bzimport set Reference to bz15811.

le.korrigan wrote:

Basically, the following changes would be required on the image replacement form:

  • no need to enter a license or categories.
  • no need to change the file destination name.
  • description should relate to the actual changes being done while replacing the images (such as "crop", "fix white balance", etc.), not the description of the image itself. The interface should mention it.
  • the form currently says that we are trying to replace an existing image and we shouldn't do it, but it is exactly what the user wants to do. A different message should be shown.

Thanks.

mike.lifeguard+bugs wrote:

(In reply to comment #1)

  • description should relate to the actual changes being done while replacing

the images (such as "crop", "fix white balance", etc.), not the description of
the image itself. The interface should mention it.

This in particular needs fixing. People just don't understand that the textbox is now an edit summary/log entry - they try to edit the image description page here, which is so so wrong. We should help them.

le.korrigan wrote:

*** Bug 16980 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

ilya.schurov wrote:

Thank you Aaron! However, I believe, more tweaks are needed: we should have different default text for summary textarea field, wpUploadDescription (e.g. if it is initial download, it have {{Image}} template with needed fields, and if it's updating, such templates looks a little bit confusing).

Please also see bug 17193, bug 17194, and in particular bug 17200. Thank you.

Geeze, new stuff just keeps coming ;)

Closing. This bug's issue are resolved.