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Add Portail namespace for French Wikisource
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Author: kipmaster

Description:
On behalf of the community, I am requesting the creation of a "Portail" and "Discussion Portail" namespaces for the French Wikisource.

A discussion and short vote took place at
http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium/Mai_2010#Pas_de_portails_.3F

Note that there are already pages that are named "Portail:..."
( e.g. http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Portail:Litt%C3%A9rature_indienne )
and associated talk pages
( e.g. http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Discussion:Portail:Litt%C3%A9rature_indienne )
could you please move these pages to the newly created namespaces?

Thanks,
Kip.


Version: unspecified
Severity: enhancement

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Reference
bz23409

Event Timeline

bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Medium.Nov 21 2014, 11:06 PM
bzimport set Reference to bz23409.

kipmaster wrote:

Hi, sorry to reopen the bug, but I do not see the "Portail" namespace on fr.wikisource.org

For example, it is not to be seen in the namespace combobox of the recent changes page, or of the special:allpages

Thanks,
Kip.

kipmaster wrote:

Thanks! We now have the "Portail" namespace!

However, the old pages named "Portail:..." and "Discussion:Portail:..." have not been moved to the new namespace. (this was the second part of my request above)

It seems that we cannot even access them to fix it manually ourselves:
The old pages are listed on
http://fr.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Sp%E9cial:Toutes_les_pages&from=Portaik&to=Portaill
but when we click on them, there is no text.

Same goes for the associated Discussion pages
http://fr.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial%3AToutes+les+pages&from=Portaik&to=Portaill&namespace=1

I am sure a very nice dev can fix this ;-)

Many thanks in advance,
Kip.

(In reply to comment #4)

Thanks! We now have the "Portail" namespace!

However, the old pages named "Portail:..." and "Discussion:Portail:..." have
not been moved to the new namespace. (this was the second part of my request
above)

Forgot about this, my apologies. Done now.

kipmaster wrote:

The Portal pages are working, but it has been brought
to my attention that the Talk pages have not been moved.
They are still in the main namespace
(cf. http://fr.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Sp%C3%A9cial%3AToutes+les+pages&from=Portaik&to=Portaill&namespace=1 )

I think the problem here might be that the name has to be changed,
for example from "Discussion:Portail:Dictionnaires" to "Discussion Portail:Dictionnaires" (the first ":" becomes " " )

Is it possible to have that?

jeluf wrote:

Sorry, we can't move these pages automatically. You can move them manually, though.

You can move them by page ID using the API.

kipmaster wrote:

(In reply to comment #8)

Sorry, we can't move these pages automatically. You can move them manually,
though.

No, because we cannot access the pages anymore (as I already said above).

jeluf wrote:

OK, this is new. Apparently names of the type 'Discussion:Portail:something' are now handled as being invalid. Older versions of Mediawiki had no such rule, IIRC.

namespaceDupes.php, the script that moves "Portail:something" from the main namespace to "something" in the portail namespace, doesn't handle this case yet.

We're currently investigating how to change the script in order to find and fix these issues.

jeluf wrote:

I've updated the migration script to handle this case, too.

The following pages could not be moved automatically to the right place since there was already a page at that place:

... 69234 (1,"Portail:La_Renaissance") -> (107,"La_Renaissance") [[Discussion Portail:La Renaissance]]
... * cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 576938 *
... * old title La_Renaissance
...
* new title La_Renaissance--DUP
... * using suffixed form [[Discussion Portail:La Renaissance--DUP]] *
... resolving on page...
ok.
... 119910 (1,"Portail:Le_Baroque") -> (107,"Le_Baroque") [[Discussion Portail:Le Baroque]]
... * cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 576941 *
... * old title Le_Baroque
...
* new title Le_Baroque--DUP
... * using suffixed form [[Discussion Portail:Le Baroque--DUP]] *
... resolving on page...
ok.
... 68676 (1,"Portail:Le_Classicisme") -> (107,"Le_Classicisme") [[Discussion Portail:Le Classicisme]]
... * cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 576940 *
... * old title Le_Classicisme
...
* new title Le_Classicisme--DUP
... * using suffixed form [[Discussion Portail:Le Classicisme--DUP]] *
... resolving on page...
ok.
... 23570 (1,"Portail:Les_Lumières") -> (107,"Les_Lumières") [[Discussion Portail:Les Lumières]]
... * cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 576954 *
... * old title Les_Lumières
...
* new title Les_Lumières--DUP
... * using suffixed form [[Discussion Portail:Les Lumières--DUP]] *
... resolving on page...
ok.
... 71722 (1,"Portail:Littérature_de_langue_anglaise") -> (107,"Littérature_de_langue_anglaise") [[Discussion Portail:Littérature de langue anglaise]]
... * cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 576958 *
... * old title Littérature_de_langue_anglaise
...
* new title Littérature_de_langue_anglaise--DUP
... * using suffixed form [[Discussion Portail:Littérature de langue anglaise--DUP]] *
... resolving on page...
ok.
... 71729 (1,"Portail:Littérature_russe") -> (107,"Littérature_russe") [[Discussion Portail:Littérature russe]]
... * cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 576962 *
... * old title Littérature_russe
...
* new title Littérature_russe--DUP
... * using suffixed form [[Discussion Portail:Littérature russe--DUP]] *
... resolving on page...
ok.
... 23384 (1,"Portail:Politique") -> (107,"Politique") [[Discussion Portail:Politique]]
... * cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 576968 *
... * old title Politique
...
* new title Politique--DUP
... * using suffixed form [[Discussion Portail:Politique--DUP]] *
... resolving on page...
ok.
... 151671 (1,"Portail:Religions_et_Croyances") -> (107,"Religions_et_Croyances") [[Discussion Portail:Religions et Croyances]]
... * cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 576960 *
... * old title Religions_et_Croyances
...
* new title Religions_et_Croyances--DUP
... * using suffixed form [[Discussion Portail:Religions et Croyances--DUP]] *
... resolving on page...
ok.
... 23283 (1,"Portail:Romantisme") -> (107,"Romantisme") [[Discussion Portail:Romantisme]]
... * cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 576956 *
... * old title Romantisme
...
* new title Romantisme--DUP
... * using suffixed form [[Discussion Portail:Romantisme--DUP]] *
... resolving on page...
ok.
... 25032 (1,"Portail:Sciences_humaines") -> (107,"Sciences_humaines") [[Discussion Portail:Sciences humaines]]
... * cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 576964 *
... * old title Sciences_humaines
...
* new title Sciences_humaines--DUP
... * using suffixed form [[Discussion Portail:Sciences humaines--DUP]] *
... resolving on page...
ok.
... 21216 (1,"Portail:Textes_médiévaux") -> (107,"Textes_médiévaux") [[Discussion Portail:Textes médiévaux]]
... * cannot resolve automatically; page exists with ID 576959 *
... * old title Textes_médiévaux
...
* new title Textes_médiévaux--DUP
... * using suffixed form [[Discussion Portail:Textes médiévaux--DUP]] *
... resolving on page...
ok.

Those pages got moved to "{{{original name}}}--DUP".