sundarbecse wrote:

Is there someone working on this? We'd like to get this resolved sooner.

Thanks,
Sundar

jeluf wrote:

Who will be allowed to add or remove users to this group?

sundarbecse wrote:

(In reply to comment #2)

Who will be allowed to add or remove users to this group?

We'd like this right to be present with the bureaucrats (currently numbering four).

jeluf wrote:

After doing some analysis, I've bad news for you.

Users that are in several groups inherit the rights from all their groups. If one of the groups has the permission to create new articles, the user will also have the permission. In your case, the default group and the logged-in-user group both have the right to create new articles. Adding a new group without this permission will not remove the right to create new articles from the user.

sundarbecse wrote:

Oh. Can it be fashioned as individual user level blocks?

There's an open feature request for fine-grained blocks, hovewer it is unlikely to be implemented in the near future - mostly because using technical means to resolve social problems is inherently wrong. It will just create more social problems and demand more technical cruft to address, and so on ad infinitum.

sundarbecse wrote:

(In reply to comment #6)

There's an open feature request for fine-grained blocks, hovewer it is unlikely
to be implemented in the near future - mostly because using technical means to
resolve social problems is inherently wrong. It will just create more social
problems and demand more technical cruft to address, and so on ad infinitum.

Thanks for the clarification.

(In reply to comment #4)

After doing some analysis, I've bad news for you.

Users that are in several groups inherit the rights from all their groups. If
one of the groups has the permission to create new articles, the user will also
have the permission. In your case, the default group and the logged-in-user
group both have the right to create new articles. Adding a new group without
this permission will not remove the right to create new articles from the user.

There's [[mw:Manual:$wgRevokePermissions]] which seems to be able to achieve that.

jeluf wrote:

Done.

Index: InitialiseSettings.php

• InitialiseSettings.php (revision 849)

+++ InitialiseSettings.php (working copy)
@@ -5733,6 +5733,9 @@

    'bureaucrat' => array( 'sysop', 'bureaucrat', 'bot' ),
	'sysop' => array( 'rollbacker' ),
),

+ '+tawiki' => array(
+ 'bureaucrat' => array( 'nocreate' ),
+ ),

'+trwiki' => array(
    'bureaucrat' => array( 'patroller')
),

@@ -5966,6 +5969,9 @@

    'bureaucrat' => array( 'bot' ),
	'sysop' => array( 'rollbacker', 'ipblock-exempt' ),
),

+ '+tawiki' => array(
+ 'bureaucrat' => array( 'nocreate' ),
+ ),

'+trwiki' => array(
    'bureaucrat' => array( 'patroller')
),

@@ -7884,5 +7890,11 @@

'testwiki' => true,

),

+'wgRevokePermissions' => array(
+ 'tawiki' => array(
+ 'nocreate' => array( 'createpage' => false),
+ ),
+),
+
);
?>

jeluf wrote:

Should work now, changed the config to:

+'wgRevokePermissions' => array(
+ 'tawiki' => array(
+ 'nocreate' => array( 'createpage' => true),
+ ),
+),
+

sundarbecse wrote:

Thanks Liangent and Jeluf.