(In reply to comment #0)

In the "Special characters" menu of the Vector skin, there are only special
characters for Latin, Latin-extended, IPA, Symbols, Greek, Cyrillic, Hebrew,
Bangla, Telugu, Sinhala and Gujarati. Why these? I have written articles about
things related to South-East Asia, so I would have liked to have seen also
Thai, Lao, and Cambodian script be available in this menu. It also puzzles me
that you have chosen to include four Indic scripts, but have not chosen
Devanagari which is used to write Hindi, the official language of India.

We included the alphabets we got from the community. If you can provide me with the Thai, Lao, Cambodian and Devanagari alphabets, please do, and I'll add them.

It also strikes me as a weakness to sort the Latin characters alphabetically

How is alphabetic sorting bad? It helps people find characters, right?

and to divide them into the two arbitrarily defined Unicode categories: Latin
and Latin-extended. It would probably be better for users if the characters
were divided into language subsets, or something similar alike, so that, for
instance, a person wanting to write Vietnamese could go to the Vietnamese
subsection and find all the characters needed to write Vietnamese there, rather
than having to switch back and forth between the two categories Latin and
Latin-extended.

It's true that there's languages that use a mix of both, which makes this distinction kind of annoying, so that's worth looking into. However, creating separate categories for each language would 1) clutter the left menu spectacularly and 2) duplicate characters in lots of places

(In reply to comment #1)

It's true that there's languages that use a mix of both, which makes this
distinction kind of annoying, so that's worth looking into. However, creating
separate categories for each language would 1) clutter the left menu
spectacularly and 2) duplicate characters in lots of places

Why not allow projects to customize it, like old edittools?

(In reply to comment #2)

(In reply to comment #1)

It's true that there's languages that use a mix of both, which makes this
distinction kind of annoying, so that's worth looking into. However, creating
separate categories for each language would 1) clutter the left menu
spectacularly and 2) duplicate characters in lots of places

Why not allow projects to customize it, like old edittools?

They can. The documentation on it it not very good just yet, though, and I haven't had any time to beef it up.

(In reply to comment #2)

(In reply to comment #1)

It's true that there's languages that use a mix of both, which makes this
distinction kind of annoying, so that's worth looking into. However, creating
separate categories for each language would 1) clutter the left menu
spectacularly and 2) duplicate characters in lots of places

Why not allow projects to customize it, like old edittools?

However, we do try to create a special characters toolbar that's as generic as possible.

v85.wikipedia wrote:

If you can provide me with
the Thai, Lao, Cambodian and Devanagari alphabets, please do, and I'll add
them.

I have now a page at [[:no:Bruker:V85/Alphabets]] giving the Thai, Lao and Khmer (Cambodian) alphabets, and how I propose that the characters be sorted.

(In reply to comment #5)

If you can provide me with
the Thai, Lao, Cambodian and Devanagari alphabets, please do, and I'll add
them.

I have now a page at [[:no:Bruker:V85/Alphabets]] giving the Thai, Lao and
Khmer (Cambodian) alphabets, and how I propose that the characters be sorted.

Awesome, thanks. I will add these characters some time after the weekend.

Added in r69617, available for testing at http://prototype.wikimedia.org/en-wp/index.php?title=Manchester_Small-Scale_Experimental_Machine&action=edit . Please test and confirm I got it right.

v85.wikipedia wrote:

(In reply to comment #7)

Added in r69617, available for testing at
http://prototype.wikimedia.org/en-wp/index.php?title=Manchester_Small-Scale_Experimental_Machine&action=edit
. Please test and confirm I got it right.

It works very well. I did notice one glitch (and that is my own fault): The character 'ๅ' is not included in the Thai layout. I have added it to my Alphabets page, as the fourth vowel diacritic ([[:no:Bruker:V85/Alphabets]], view history for changes). Well done!

(In reply to comment #8)

(In reply to comment #7)

Added in r69617, available for testing at
http://prototype.wikimedia.org/en-wp/index.php?title=Manchester_Small-Scale_Experimental_Machine&action=edit
. Please test and confirm I got it right.

It works very well. I did notice one glitch (and that is my own fault): The
character 'ๅ' is not included in the Thai layout. I have added it to my
Alphabets page, as the fourth vowel diacritic ([[:no:Bruker:V85/Alphabets]],
view history for changes). Well done!

Added in r69635, thanks.