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Enable 'eliminator' flag on hiwiki and grant bureaucrats to add/remove this group
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Author: mayurdce

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Hi, Due to less active admins in our projects we have decided to introduce a new user group "eliminator" as it was introduced in ptwiki as a Bug 24623 , here we want only two rights for this user group

$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['delete'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['undelete'] = true;

also enable bureacrats to add/remove this user group.

community consensus is at link-http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2/%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%96_20#Enable_Some_User_Groups

Thank you and Regards

Version: unspecified
Severity: enhancement
URL: http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2/%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%96_20#Enable_Some_User_Groups

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bzimport raised the priority of this task from to High.Nov 21 2014, 11:21 PM
bzimport set Reference to bz25374.

mayurdce wrote:

Hi, please also enable some more right for this group along with following

$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['delete'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['undelete'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['autopatrol'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['rollback'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['ipblock-exempt'] = true;

and enable bureacrats to add/remove this user group

Thank you and Regards

mayurdce wrote:

Please make this group in following-
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['delete'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['undelete'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminador']['browsearchive'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['rollback'] = true;

and and enable bureacrats to add/remove this user group

Thank you and Regards

(In reply to comment #0)

Hi, Due to less active admins in our projects we have decided to introduce a
new user group "eliminator"

Just pointing out the glaringly obvious...why don't you just promote more admins who will be active?

mayurdce wrote:

Actually an admin have many rights like blocking user, protecting page and other lots of right are there.just for Deleting vandalised pages and copyrighted pages it will not suitable to make a active person as admins, but giving him opportunity to become a eliminator, editprotected and editinterface will improve his qualities and skills then after one year he may be promoted to admin.Thats why ptwiki requested on bug 24623 and their request was fullfilled.An admin have to do lots of work and every user have some his kind of interest like controlling vandalism, editing main page , protected pages to improve quality etc.

Making eliminator flag will not only stop addition of copyrighted material but also will remove vandalised pages.

Thank you and regards

mayurdce wrote:

Please make this group in following-
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['delete'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['undelete'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminador']['browsearchive'] = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['eliminator']['rollback'] = true;

and and enable bureacrats to add/remove this user group

Thank you and Regards

mayurdce wrote:

Will any body resolve this bug

I still don't think this is needed...not at all. It promotes flag whoring and in most cases, its just easier to make new sysops. There's no reason to break it down, you either trust someone to use the tools responsibly or you don't. End of story.

mayurdce wrote:

(In reply to comment #7)

I still don't think this is needed...not at all. It promotes flag whoring and
in most cases, its just easier to make new sysops. There's no reason to break
it down, you either trust someone to use the tools responsibly or you don't.
End of story.

Actually an admin have many rights like blocking user, protecting page and
other lots of right are there.just for Deleting vandalised pages and
copyrighted pages it will not suitable to make a active person as admins, but
giving him opportunity to become a eliminator, editprotected and editinterface
will improve his qualities and skills then after one year he may be promoted to
admin.Thats why ptwiki requested on bug 24623 and their request was
fullfilled.An admin have to do lots of work and every user have some his kind
of interest like controlling vandalism, editing main page , protected pages to
improve quality etc.

Making eliminator flag will not only stop addition of copyrighted material but
also will remove vandalised pages.

No, I just do not agree, sorry. They can be an admin and do all those things, just because they have this right or that right doesn't mean they'll need to use it...but its there just in case.

mayurdce wrote:

Giving admin right will not better in my opinion for only deleting pages, just we have rollbacker to roll back edit, in your opinion we should give admin right to rollback edits instead of rollback right only.

I completely defer from your opinion, just only for rollback, delete pages we cann't give the most powerful tool right to users.

Done.

Index: wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php

  • wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php (revision 1330)

+++ wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php (working copy)
@@ -5510,6 +5510,7 @@

'editprotected' => array( 'editprotected' => true ),
'interface_editor' => array( 'editinterface' => true ),
'flood'  => array( 'bot' => true ),

+ 'eliminator' => array( 'delete' => true, 'undelete' => true, 'rollback' => true, 'browsearchive' => true ),

),
'hrwiki' => array(
   'patroller' => array( 'patrol' => true, 'autopatrol' => true, 'rollback' => true ),

@@ -5994,7 +5995,7 @@

           'sysop' => array( 'patroller', 'autopatrolled' ),
),
'+hiwiki' => array(
  • 'bureaucrat' => array( 'interface_editor', 'flood', 'abusefilter', ),

+ 'bureaucrat' => array( 'interface_editor', 'flood', 'abusefilter', 'eliminator' ),

       'sysop' => array( 'confirmed', 'rollbacker', 'autopatrolled', 'editprotected', 'patroller', ),
),
'+hrwiki' => array(

@@ -6263,7 +6264,7 @@

           'sysop' => array( 'patroller', 'autopatrolled' ),
),
'+hiwiki' => array(
  • 'bureaucrat' => array( 'sysop', 'interface_editor', 'flood', 'abusefilter'),

+ 'bureaucrat' => array( 'sysop', 'interface_editor', 'flood', 'abusefilter', 'eliminator' ),

       'sysop' => array( 'confirmed', 'rollbacker', 'autopatrolled', 'editprotected', 'patroller', ),
),
'+hrwiki' => array(
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