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Video player doesn't include copyright/licensing information
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Author: folengo

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I copy below the contents of http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#mwEmbed_gadget:_Videos_no_longer_properly_linked_to_description_pages_by_clicking_on_the_thumbnail

[[File:PolarBearsPlayingSDZooFeb09.ogv|thumb]]
Until a short time ago, you could access the file description page of videos by clicking on the thumbnail. As you can check with the polar bear video I attach here, it does not seem to be possible any longer. Does anyone know why it is so ? I think this change must be reverted, because

#) free licenses require to make the licensing information available to readers/viewers
#) even in the case of public domain videos, the uploader should have some form of recognition for his work (the readers/viewers should be able to easily find his user name)
#) Description pages often contain valuable information about the circumstances when the video was taken, which might be useful to readers/viewers.

(I know that the small "enlarge" icon is still available, but in my opinion this is too small, and I guess that only a limited number of viewers are likely to click on this icon).

[[User:Teofilo|Teofilo]] ([[User talk:Teofilo|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:11, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
:No problem on my end, I can click on the thumbnail which takes me to the File:Polar2001.ogg description page. (using the MonoBook skin) [[User:Bidgee|Bidgee]] ([[User talk:Bidgee|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:16, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
::I have tried changing my skin to monobook but it is still the same (a "play clip" button is displayed on the thumbnail, which starts the video instead of taking me to the file description page). An other problem is that the "Credits" that display after clicking on the circled "i" in the "menu" is empty. In my view, this "credits" menu option should redirect to the file description page. Also the "embedd on page" "copy code" should include licensing information and author name. Embedding on page without licensing information is a violation of the license. [[User:Teofilo|Teofilo]] ([[User talk:Teofilo|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:28, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
:::As I was trying my best to use Firefogg (See #Cutting videos into parts smaller than 100 MB with or without Firefogg above) I had turned the "Add mwEmbed support for Kaltura Sequencer, Video Playback, Firefogg uploading" gadget in my user preferences. I have removed that gadget and everything is OK again. [[User:Teofilo|Teofilo]] ([[User talk:Teofilo|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:14, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Version: unspecified
Severity: enhancement
See Also:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43747
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25624

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• bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Medium.Nov 21 2014, 11:50 PM
• bzimport added a project: TimedMediaHandler.
• bzimport set Reference to bz31583.
• bzimport created this task.Oct 10 2011, 1:16 PM
• bzimport added a comment.Oct 10 2011, 8:01 PM

mdale wrote:

In the updated player ( timed media handler ) we have improved license info parsing and display the "credits" at the end of the video playback and by default when you press the menu button.

The share embed does include license info within the player that your embedding.

If we want more dominate placement we can ask some designers to come up with what would achieve this goal?

• bzimport added a comment.Oct 10 2011, 10:43 PM

folengo wrote:

I don't know what you mean by "updated player" and by "timed media handler". If it works all fine as you are saying, why doesn't it work on my computer with File:PolarBearsPlayingSDZooFeb09.ogv ? If you don't believe me, do you want me to create a screenshot as evidence that no license info is provided in the empty "credits" thing ?

• bzimport added a comment.Oct 11 2011, 2:54 AM

mdale wrote:

I am referring to : http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/Main_Page that extension is not yet installed on wikimedia sites, but its meant to replace the existing player.

• bzimport added a comment.Oct 11 2011, 10:27 AM

folengo wrote:

My reaction : http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-October/069587.html

McZusatz added a comment.Dec 6 2012, 12:51 PM

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-October/069596.html

As of right now the author gets named but licence does not.

McZusatz added a comment.Dec 6 2012, 12:52 PM

Not sure if adding the licence to the info is even possible...

Aklapper added a comment.Dec 6 2012, 1:05 PM

[Resetting misleading bug summary.]

Trying with http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Boomer_fires_at_Apogee_Stadium.ogv and TimedMediaHandler I cannot get the license displayed within the video player (only shown in the license section of the File: page).

• bzimport added a comment.Dec 6 2012, 5:12 PM

mdale wrote:

This issue is a bit tricky to close without machine readable licence info for the asset. Some gross heuristics could be used that would not cover everything, or we could just say please see description page for license info?

Nemo_bis added a comment.Jan 8 2013, 10:28 PM

(In reply to comment #7)

[Resetting misleading bug summary.]

It's more misleading now, I couldn't make sense out of the comments. :) I restored the original concept in a more factual fashion.

Trying with
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Boomer_fires_at_Apogee_Stadium.ogv and
TimedMediaHandler I cannot get the license displayed within the video
player (only shown in the license section of the File: page).

You actually can reach the description, but only if you *know* that there's a link: see bug 43747.

Yair_rand added a comment.Jan 23 2013, 7:10 AM

Until something can be set up to correctly add the license right there in the box, how about adding a line with something like "License information is available on [the File page]." to the Credits section?

Thgoiter added a comment.May 24 2013, 6:34 PM

An obvious link to the file description page is definitely needed!

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