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The Babel localisations for languages with fallback localisations, show the fallback localisation
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Author: gmeijssen

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On for instance the fy and the ht Wikipedia, usage of the Haitian Babel extension information shows up in French, the fall back language. The localisations are available at translatewiki.net . It was localised in 2008 !!


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Severity: major

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bzimport raised the priority of this task from to High.Nov 22 2014, 12:03 AM
bzimport set Reference to bz33768.

Do they perhaps by any chance have templates overriding the messages?

Gerard.meijssen wrote:

Templates no longer override the definitions in the Babel extension. Furthermore it is the French fall back that shows not something in Haitian.

Given that we have the localisations at twn and we do not have them in for instance the fy.wikipedia and the ht.wikipedia it cannot be a matter of a local override.
Thanks,

Gerard

gmeijssen wrote:

I found that the localisations for Babel on the Javanese jv Wikipedia do show in the fall back language as well. These are also well established localisations.
Thanks,

GerardM

NB I upped the severity to major because it impacts multiple languages who have fall back languages.

gmeijssen wrote:

the Lingala (ln) language is also suffering from this it shows French in stead of Lingala
Thanks,

Gerard

gmeijssen wrote:

Malagasy mg shows French and was localised in 2009

It was also reported for Võro which falls back to Estonion, so it is definitely a general problem for languages that have a fallback.

gmeijssen wrote:

Another language with missing Babel translations .. myv - Erzya
Thanks,

Gerard

gmeijssen wrote:

Another language with missing Babel translations rue - Rusyn
Thanks,

Gerard

It's clear that it's a systematic problem for all languages which have a fallback language.

Confirmed: https://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itilizat%C3%A8:Catrope shows "Informations Babel sur l’utilisateur" which is the 'babel' message in fr. The ht message is "Enfòmasyon sou itilizatè Babel".

Investigating.

(In reply to comment #11)

Confirmed: https://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itilizat%C3%A8:Catrope shows
"Informations Babel sur l’utilisateur" which is the 'babel' message in fr. The
ht message is "Enfòmasyon sou itilizatè Babel".

Investigating.

Fixed now with a live hack, see that page. I'll commit the fix properly once I sort out this zero disk space issue on the scalers.

Some manifestations of this bug may stick around due to caching. In particular, Babel boxes may still show messages from the fallback language until the page they're on is edited. A purge or a null edit should fix this.