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Moved pages appear with the date of initial creation
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pages that are moved from one location to another are listed in Special:NewPagesFeed with the date of creation in the original location. This can be many, many years old and makes the maximum-age feature worthless. It'd be more logical to use the date and timestamp of the move action.


Version: unspecified
Severity: normal
See Also:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12363

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bz36930

Event Timeline

bzimport raised the priority of this task from to High.Nov 22 2014, 12:20 AM
bzimport added a project: PageTriage.
bzimport set Reference to bz36930.

Hmm, I guess we'll need to change the date we're using for ptrp_created in these cases. This is take a bit of work.

The page itself is not new. Maybe they should simpley not be listed as 'new pages' instead.

Well, they're not new pages, but they're new articles. I'm not sure how to present this in a way that isn't confusing one way or the other. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Good point. It's hard to say what should be done on those cases.

This would take a lot of effort for a small benefit. Marking wontfix.

Wikifram wrote:

It looks as if moved pages aren't shown in the newpages feed anymore at all, not at the creation date and not at the move date. I tried this on en.wikipedia with [[Mathur, Krishnagiri]], which I couldn't find in it.

The absence of new pages from the new pages feed is a very old and very annoying bug, which has been exploited by paid editors and other problematic editors (see the en-wiki Signpost from 9 october). Pages which get moved from another mainspace to the main namespace should be listed as "new pages" on the date of the move. This is not a "small benefit", this is currently a major loophole which gets exploited by malicious editors to avoid scrutiny.

(In reply to comment #6)

It looks as if moved pages aren't shown in the newpages feed anymore at all,

This report is about moved pages appearing with the date of initial creation - see bug summary. Moved pages not appearing at all obviously is a different problem (and covered in bug 12363). Closing as WONTFIX again.

Actually bug 12363 is specifically for Special:NewPages. If the bug also now exists for Special:NewPagesFeed, that should be opened as a new bug under the PageCuration component. I wonder if something was changed recently. Benny Situ would be the person to ask.

bsitu wrote:

Nothing was changed in PageCuration recently

Re-opening.

NewPagesFeed is designed for patrolling, not just looking at new pages (that's Special:NewPages).

I don't think this is that difficult, and will submit a patch momentarily.

Change 94403 had a related patch set uploaded by Legoktm:
Use timestamp of page move instead of creation date

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94403

Legoktm removed a project: Patch-For-Review.
Legoktm set Security to None.
Etonkovidova subscribed.

Special:NewPagesFeed will display the day of a page creation not a date when a page was moved.

Special:NewPages current behavior for moved pages is described in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T14363#4930366.

Moving the task to Community-tech.