bsitu wrote:

There would be no talk page notification for minor edit if $wgEnotifMinorEdits is set to false

Thanks for the answer.

(In reply to comment #1)

There would be no talk page notification for minor edit if
$wgEnotifMinorEdits
is set to false

Why? That's not expected behaviour, docs say «This does not affect the user's own talk page (they will be notified about all changes, regardless of this setting)». https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:$wgEnotifMinorEdits&diff=64049&oldid=64047
When did this change?

bsitu wrote:

The doc may be just referring to Orange Bar notice?

"Set to true to allow e-mail notification to be sent also for small (minor) edits. This does not affect the user's own talk page (they will be notified about all changes, regardless of this setting)."

(In reply to comment #3)

The doc may be just referring to Orange Bar notice?

"Set to true to allow e-mail notification to be sent also for small (minor)
edits. This does not affect the user's own talk page (they will be notified
about all changes, regardless of this setting)."

I doubt it, HappyDog would not be so imprecise.

(In reply to comment #4)

(In reply to comment #3)

The doc may be just referring to Orange Bar notice?

"Set to true to allow e-mail notification to be sent also for small (minor)
edits. This does not affect the user's own talk page (they will be notified
about all changes, regardless of this setting)."

I doubt it, HappyDog would not be so imprecise.

I would hope not, anyway. :-)

It was a long time ago now, so I don't fully remember, but at that time I was going through all the settings quite carefully, checking the actual code if necessary, therefore I would be surprised if that description was inaccurate.

That said, it was a long time ago, and whilst I would expect it to be valid at the point of writing, the software may have changed since then, so probably worth re-checking the code.

Cc Platonides because he just mistakenly sent several thousands talkpage notifications as minor edits on Commons for WLM, making all those users miss an enotif.

The traditional behavior (and what I expected) was that the edits would have to be minor and bot for not triggering the uer talk email.

$wgEnotifMinorEdits *does* affect user talk (as well as watchlist), and is false on almost all WMF wikis, meaning users will never receive email notifications for minor edits on those wikis. There is also no preference override if the global is set to false.

I think a more logical approach for WMF would be to always set $wgEnotifMinorEdits to true, and set $wgDefaultUserOptions['enotifminoredits'] true or false depending on the wiki's preference.

Then individual users would always at least have the option to set it either way.

Filed as T142727: Set $wgEnotifMinorEdits true throughout WMF, and instead use $wgDefaultUserOptions['enotifminoredits'].

I think it has been fixed in the meanwhile, but it’s certainly broken right now: I’ve got emails about this, this and this, but haven’t got about this, this, this, this, this and this. (It’s another question that none of these are really minor edits.) It might have happened that some emails got lost (it happens every now and then), but the fact all emails about non-minor edits arrived and no emails about minor edits did is suspicious at the least.