The read HTML should have hinting to allow full DOM copying (as opposed to just rich copying) from read mode into VE surfaces
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	Jul 26 2013, 12:47 PM

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As perhaps a simpler case of copy and paste from 'external sources', pasting richtext that copied from the same wiki should work seamlessly.

In many cases, the 'html' already has the metadata needed. e.g. the image, or text-with-wikilinks, even the categories, should be paste-able

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelham_Parkway

With a tiny bit of additional html attributes, the navbox templates ({{Parkways in New York City}} & {{Bronx streets}}) could be copied as they are self-contained units - no parameter were used to invoke them.

Again with a bit of markup, the Infobox pasted into a VE session, but only the shell transclusion could set up - the parameters would need to be entered by the user in the VE.

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Severity: enhancement
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51547

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Reference: bz52091

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Open		None	T174303 Copy-pasting linked ISBN numbers from view mode HTML into VisualEditor inserts wikitext links to Special:BookSources (it should turn them into magic links?)
Open	Feature	None	T54091 The read HTML should have hinting to allow full DOM copying (as opposed to just rich copying) from read mode into VE surfaces
Open		None	T55784 [EPIC] Use Parsoid HTML for all page views
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• bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Low.Nov 22 2014, 1:51 AM

• bzimport added a project: VisualEditor-MediaWiki.

• bzimport set Reference to bz52091.

jayvdb created this task.Jul 26 2013, 12:47 PM

This is not simpler. This is the same. The problem is not taking in rich text (from any source), it's inserting it sanely into VisualEditor's ContentEditable surface, sadly. Merging.

This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 33105 ***

This is a separate problem James. This is about copying from a non-VE wiki page on the same wiki. That is very different from copying from another VE, or another website. As I eluded to in my initial enhancement request, additional HTML needs to be emitted into the read version of the wiki page in order that a VE could pick up the name of the template to use when pasting it into a VE.

(In reply to comment #2)

This is a separate problem James. This is about copying from a non-VE wiki
page on the same wiki. That is very different from copying from another VE,
or another website. As I eluded to in my initial enhancement request,
additional HTML needs to be emitted into the read version of the wiki page in
order that a VE could pick up the name of the template to use when pasting it
into a VE.

Oh, sorry, I missed your comment about adding RDFa/etc. hinting to highlight what DOM elements are what.

"Tiny" is not remotely the correct word - this will require us to replace the entire read DOM with the same output as Parsoid provides VisualEditor, which is vaguely scheduled to be considered for research/analysis in about a year's time (this is so far off in the distance there isn't even a bug for it yet). Recasting.

Bug 52787 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

NB Firefox throws away RDFa properties when copying, so this won't be possible without JavaScript intercepting copy events, as it stands:

https://jsfiddle.net/L9q81y02/2/

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Jdforrester-WMF renamed this task from VisualEditor: The read HTML should have hinting to allow full DOM copying (as opposed to just rich copying) from read mode into VE surfaces to The read HTML should have hinting to allow full DOM copying (as opposed to just rich copying) from read mode into VE surfaces.Dec 16 2014, 7:12 PM

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Jdforrester-WMF mentioned this in T54936: Move data-parsoid and possibly data-mw out of the DOM, add uids.Dec 16 2014, 7:15 PM

nshahquinn-wmf merged a task: T93780: Retain ref tags (formatting) when copying from Read (aka View) mode of an encyclopedia article..May 14 2015, 9:30 PM

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