[15:52] <T13> VE Question. How is VE currently set up to handle users that have opted-in to gadgets that modify the editing window such as wikEd?
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[15:54] <T13> Do those gadgets still load even though the hooks they use don't exist? Shouldn't having VE enabled disable those gadgets and grey out the optiobs for them in the gadgets tab of preferences?
[15:56] <T13> I'm guessing some of the "VE" bugs are caused by these gadgets trying to do what they no longer can.
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[16:06] <mooeypoo> T13: I think most of the edit-related gadgets work on the action=edit condition, and ve goes with action=vedit
[16:07] <mooeypoo> but I am not sure :) you'll be safer getting the answer from the VE team
[16:09] <MatmaRex> T13: i'm not on the team, but i'm pretty sure that's the reason
[16:10] <MatmaRex> T13: basically there are two ways to detect if we're inedit mode - either look if 'action' is 'edit' or 'submit', or look for some elements that are parts of theedit form, like #wpTextbox1 (the main textbox)
[16:10] <MatmaRex> VE avoids them both
[16:11] <T13> I've seen questions on WP:THQ with a link to a screenshot of wikEd and the user thinking they were using VE. So, I was curious how it was handled.
[16:11] <T13> I'll add the suggestion to gray out the unusable with VE gadgets
[16:11] <mooeypoo> Ah, *that* kind of user errors. Hm. Not sure how you can handle those other than politely correct the user's false assumption
[16:11] <T13> On Bugzilla...
Version: unspecified
Severity: enhancement