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This bug is about the problem of HTTPS for languages of China (where HTTPS is blocked). I suggest not to discuss political implications here (and discuss it on the wikimedia-l mailing list) but only technical things.

The bug/problem is largely known but I don’t think there is an open bug for that, so this is the case now; probably the resolution can be INVALID or WONTFIX because it is due to external factors, but it will serve to concentrate the discussion.

This bug is related to bug 52846 about a similar problem in Iran, and resolution/discussions can be different although related.


Version: wmf-deployment
Severity: normal
See Also:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52846

Details

Reference
bz53144

Event Timeline

bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Needs Triage.Nov 22 2014, 2:05 AM
bzimport added a project: HTTPS.
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According to https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:HTTPS&oldid=5733512#List_of_Chinese_Wikipedia the list of Wikimedia projects whose languages are spoken in China is:

  • Standard Chinese (zh)
  • Classical Chinese (lzh)
  • Wuu Chinese (wuu)
  • Gan Chinese (gan)
  • Hakka Chinese (hak)
  • Cantonese (yue / zh-yue.wikipedia.org)
  • Tibetan (bo)
  • Minnan Chinese(nan / zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org)
  • Mindong Chinese (cdo)
  • Uyghur (ug)

jingchaoye wrote:

Can somebody tell me how this work and the what is the possible resolution?

jingchaoye wrote:

these language may lose its native speaker if Https is used.
(In reply to comment #1)

According to
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:
HTTPS&oldid=5733512#List_of_Chinese_Wikipedia
the list of Wikimedia projects whose languages are spoken in China is:

  • Standard Chinese (zh)
  • Classical Chinese (lzh)
  • Wuu Chinese (wuu)
  • Gan Chinese (gan)
  • Hakka Chinese (hak)
  • Cantonese (yue / zh-yue.wikipedia.org)
  • Tibetan (bo)
  • Minnan Chinese(nan / zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org)
  • Mindong Chinese (cdo)
  • Uyghur (ug)

(In reply to comment #0)

This bug is about the problem of HTTPS for languages of China (where HTTPS is
blocked). I suggest not to discuss political implications here (and discuss
it on the wikimedia-l mailing list) but only technical things.

You forgot to describe "the bug" or bring up any "technical things" in your initial comment. Also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_report_a_bug

The discussion really will not profit from yet another place to discuss, besides already existing wikitech-l mailing list and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:HTTPS especially as the situation in China has always been part of the discussion from the very beginning (in contrast to Iran which was brought up in bug 52846).

Can somebody tell me how this work and the what is the possible resolution?

jingchaoye: Please discuss in the thread on wikitech-l@ mailing list or
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:HTTPS and be more specific about "this". Let's not triplicate everything that was already written and said here.