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logged in user cannot edit mw:Help:Links/en
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Author: wim.dewinter

Description:
While visiting page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links/en :

If not logged in, I get all the tabs:

Help | Discussion | Read | Edit | Edit source | View history

If logged in (as user WimW), the options reduce to:

Help Page | Discussion | Read | Translate | View history

So, I can contribute only if not logged in...


Version: wmf-deployment
Severity: normal
URL: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links/en

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Reference
bz59899

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bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Low.Nov 22 2014, 2:35 AM
bzimport set Reference to bz59899.
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Thanks for taking the time to report this!

This does not happen for me with Firefox 26 on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links/en when being logged in - I see all tabs (though "Edit" will bring me to translation).
I am pretty sure that there is no software bug here and that this should be asked on-wiki, but in any case, enabled gadgets and browser error console output etc. is welcome.

wim.dewinter wrote:

The reported behaviour is either erratic, or has been temporary. I have been back to show it to a colleage and then it re-appeared as described in my first comment. Now when I went back once again to make some screendumps it behaved like it should do.

I'll keep an eye open for it.

probably a translate bug.

However, you're not supposed to edit the /en version, but the plain Help:Links version...

wim.dewinter wrote:

Truly so. "View Source" would have been sufficient for me.

Wim: Do you still face this problem occasionally?
Because I've failed to reproduce so far. :-/

wim.dewinter wrote:

screendump showing logged-in status but no edit tab

see comment # 6

Attached:

mediaWikiNoEdit.jpg (1×1 px, 532 KB)

wim.dewinter wrote:

Hi Andre,

Yes, albeit irregulary. I have added a screendump just made.

regards,

Wim

I don't understand the issue. Help:Links/en cannot be edited by anyone but FuzzyBot, so this bug is currently invalid.

Do you have any problem on pages which should be edited, and if yes

  1. does the button you're looking for really disappear or does it just move to the dropdown next to the star (in Vector),
  2. is the action corresponding to the button (?action=edit it seems?) really impossible when you visit the appropriate URL,
  3. should it not be?

For now I'm closing this bug.
The actual issues are that you see a "edit" button at all (bug 50284) and that the standard edit button ("edit source") should be "view source" (bug 61218).

wim.dewinter wrote:

#50284: this conclusion seems to be correct, at least when not logged in. The page can be edited but not saved (Error: Unknown error: "tpt-target-page")

(In reply to comment #10)

#50284: this conclusion seems to be correct, at least when not logged in. The
page can be edited but not saved (Error: Unknown error: "tpt-target-page")

Ok, sorry for the confusion. If you wish to clarify how you got to the /en subpage and what you expected to find there (with steps to reproduce/"user story"), that would be a useful separate report. For instance, the keyword in the search bar in your screenshot suggests you may have reached that page from a search engine, so maybe we should NOINDEX /en subpages.