In the interest of transparency, any reason why this has to be private? (Not just asking for multimedia specifically. In general there's really no good reason for any WMF development time other than security and perhaps ops (in limited circumstances) to need a private mailing list imho)

s/time/team

Probably multimedia-team would be a better name. I assume the mailing list will be about team internals, not development stuff.

(In reply to Nemo from comment #3)

I assume the mailing list will be about team internals, not development stuff.

If it's not development stuff then naming it "multimedia-dev" might be misleading... Where would "development stuff" be discussed? https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/multimedia ? A bit confusing.

This should actually be a public list, sorry for the confusion :)

I'm asking teammates about multimedia-team now, but it can be another bug report.

(In reply to Mark Holmquist from comment #5)

This should actually be a public list, sorry for the confusion :)

Ugh, what for? multimedia was a rename from wikivideo-l, which was a technical mailing list. Sounds entirely reusable for whatever purpose -dev might have.

(In reply to Mark Holmquist from comment #0)

Name: multimedia-dev
Admins: fflorin@wikimedia.org, mtraceur@member.fsf.org
Initial members: gtisza@wikimedia.org, gdubuc@wikimedia.org,
aarcos.wiki@gmail.com

Now that I look better: why fflorin admin but not list member? O_o

Both admins should also be list members. But we're still sort of deciding what to do here.

Comment 6 (Why is the existing "multimedia" list not sufficient?) needs an answer first... :)

That's what we're trying to decide internally...we may ask on-list to decide.

Thehelpfulonewiki wrote:

(Marking as New to show that I've seen this - please update when a decision has been made)

We're using Multimedia-l for our discussion area now, so we'll WFM this for now while we do that. We may reopen later if it doesn't work out.

Reopening, renaming bug

This should be a private, internal invite-only list for the Multimedia team.

Name: multimedia-internal
Admins/Initial members: gtisza@wikimedia.org, gdubuc@wikimedia.org, fflorin@wikimedia.org, mtraceur@member.fsf.org, robla@wikimedia.org

(all members should be admins, at least for now)

Thanks!

(Quoting Bawolff (Brian Wolff) from comment #1)

In the interest of transparency, any reason why this has to be private? (Not
just asking for multimedia specifically. In general there's really no good
reason for any WMF development time other than security and perhaps ops (in
limited circumstances) to need a private mailing list imho)

Has this been addressed?

We already have a public multimedia list. This would be a private list, intended for quick internal exchanges between staffers. Other WMF teams already have such private lists, so this is not a precedent.

Thehelpfulonewiki wrote:

I know of the existence of the other lists (I created a few of them!), Fabrice are you okay with this list being private, but publicly listed on the main list directory (https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/) as design-team and growth-team are?

THO, yeah, that's our intent here. We're OK with people knowing about the list. Hell, all they have to do is look at Bugzilla anyway...

Thehelpfulonewiki wrote:

Okay thanks, just one further bit of clarification: did you want the name to be -team or -internal (-team would match the the other list names)?

Oh, -team then. I thought I saw an -internal one, but that works.

Thehelpfulonewiki wrote:

List created, with an email sent to all of you as the list admins. I've also subscribed you all to the list, with private archives and confirm and approve subscription as previously discussed.

List info page: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/multimedia-team