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Create lemmata in standard language and change its title to actual dialect's speaking
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Author: manuae

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Wikipedia hosts pages in dialects of languages which have no standardized form to write. In e.g. German, all people use the standard German for writing, independent what dialect they actually speak.

This causes problems in such Wikipedia communities on about how to name a lemma. Some create lemmas in the dialect which leads to movements if another contributor - often from the specific region the lemma talks about - speaks or writes it in another way. Or someone thinks later that the titel should better be written it in another way, etc.
Such a contributor creates a redirect from the old lemma's name to the new one or not. Since there're various ways how to speak and write a dialect, this leads to a confusing crowd of redirects to a lemma by time which becomes very unhandy to manage.
Additionally, because it's difficult for readers, but even for native dialect speakers to find out how a lemma could have been named, a redirect in the standard language is necessary for every lemma.

Therefore, e.g. the Alemannic Wikipedia (http://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Houptsyte) organizes lemmata consequently in standard German and change the titel of a lemma to Alemannic by a template (http://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Titel) and Javascript (http://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js). This solution prevents all redirects in standard language as well as as movements and thus redirects. The discussion on how to organize this effectively arose currently in the Palatine Wikipedia, too (http://pfl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Schdammdisch#Regle).

But the solution of the Alemannic Wikipedia stopped working in the past after MediaWiki had been developed. Mr. Brion VIBBER (http://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Byytreeg/Brion_VIBBER) succesfully helped to fix it. The community of a dialect Wikipedia is usually too small to be able to maintain such a solution locally in cases of a change in MediaWiki.

The feature request is now to include/adapt the solution of the Alemannic Wikipedia as standard for Wikipedia written in a dialect, i.e. to include the possibility to create lemmata in the standard language and change its titel to the actual dialect's speaking.

Thank you for consideration the request. Manuae


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