On every page there is an icon of a pencil.
It is linked to #editor/0.
I.e. there is no way to edit any other section than section 0.
Maybe it was assumed that /0 meant the whole page.
Anyway one must manually change the url to /1, /2 etc.
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- T191367: Clicking edit icon at top of page confuses when lead section is blank
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bingle-admin wrote:
Prioritization and scheduling of this bug is tracked on Mingle card https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/1909
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jgonera wrote:
Are there no pencil icons in sections when you unfold them? If no, can you provide a URL?
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Ah... I get it!
To edit section | use pencil at
0 | top left
1 | side right
2 | side right
3 | side right
4 | side right
Who would have ever guessed!
One assumes instead:
To edit section | use pencil at
entire article | top left
0 | side right
1 | side right
2 | side right
3 | side right
4 | side right
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The star watchlist icon applies to the entire article, so one assumes the same with the edit icon appearing in the same row. I didn't test the upload icon.
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Maybe if there is nowhere else to put it, have that row be:
Pencil (edit whole article), upload, watch, Pencil+0 (edit section 0)
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This is currently by design to make editing easier on a mobile screen by optimising for section editing.
We are currently exploring full page edits in our work on VisualEditor. This may or may not get addressed as part of that.
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In the case of VE this does mean edit the entire page.
On tablets/desktops we may make this mean the entire page.
cc'ing Jared in case he can comment on the long term strategy.
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This is being handled as part of the Fixed Header / Winter Beta feature https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Winter
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@Jdlrobson @Niedzielski, thoughts:
It seems like there are possibly two confusing things going on here:
1) Articles with empty lead sections
-I find the fact that this page/article doesn't have a lead section to be slightly confusing. It took me a bit to understand how that was happening in the first place. Maybe this is just because I'm inexperienced with Wikis.
-I wonder how common this situation is where the lead section is totally blank (I took a look around at some talk pages and other non-article namespace pages...it seems like often even when there is no text in the lead section there is still some stuff, e.g. a template, in there)
-I wonder if people in this situation are intending to have empty lead sections, or if they don't realize that starting the article/page with a heading causes this slightly awkward situation
-Do we have an opinion on whether or not it's "okay" to start an article/page with a heading? I suppose we could discourage it, or at least alert people so that there's a bit more awareness of what's going on here
2) The fact that on mobile you can only edit one section at a time
-agreed it's confusing that the edit pen for the lead section is located on top of the article, but then again the lead section doesn't have a heading like the other sections do so it'd be impossible to match the pattern used in subsequent sections
-I wonder if this one section at a time editing is confusing to people in general, or only when they find themselves editing an empty lead section
That being said, I wonder if there's something relatively cheap we can do with the empty state here? e.g.
