Delete extra boards on ruwiki (was:Enable Flow for testing in ruwiki)
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	Sep 11 2014, 3:31 AM

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Danny created a couple of extra boards that need to be deleted:

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:Песочница/Flow

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:Форум/Новости/Flow

(old information:)

Enable Flow for pages:

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:Форум/Новости/Flow (trans: Wikipedia:Forum/News/Flow)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:Песочница/Flow (trans: Wikipedia:Sandbox/Flow)

in ru.wikipedia.org according to the consensus at https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:Форум/Архив/Предложения/2014/08#.D0.92.D0.BA.D0.BB.D1.8E.D1.87.D0.B8.D1.82.D1.8C_Flow

Note: specific configuration change recommendations: "grants rights "Edit post", "Delete topic" and "Delete post" to all autoconfirmed users."

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Reference: bz70697

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Status	Assigned	Task
Declined	None	T78640 Co-op: bot can create a Flow board for each new mentored editor (tracking)
Invalid	• Capt_Swing	T76785 Co-op: get approval for hostbot to flow-create-board right
Resolved	• Capt_Swing	T90811 delete testwiki co-op pages
Resolved	• DannyH	T72697 Delete extra boards on ruwiki (was:Enable Flow for testing in ruwiki)
Resolved	matthiasmullie	T90970 T10. Board deletion action does not appear in tabs
Resolved	matthiasmullie	T90077 Board Deletion Issues (affects Co-op)
Resolved	matthiasmullie	T90969 T4. Deleting board does not delete the topics or make them inaccessible
Resolved	matthiasmullie	T90972 Allow admins to see a deleted Flow board without undeleting it
Resolved	matthiasmullie	T90973 T9. When deleting board or topic, contributions should move from Contributions to DeletedContributions
Resolved	matthiasmullie	T90974 U3. Don't reuse board workflow when board is re-created
Resolved	matthiasmullie	T94649 Some workflow's have workflow_page_id = 0
Resolved	matthiasmullie	T95280 Make workflows aware of page_id
Resolved	matthiasmullie	T95594 Write maintenance script to make sure all Flow boards exist in page and revision table
Resolved	• Mattflaschen-WMF	T96888 A14. Run maintenance/FlowUpdateWorkflowPageId.php in production

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• bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Low.Nov 22 2014, 3:51 AM

• bzimport added projects: Wikimedia-Site-requests, Shell.

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MBH created this task.Sep 11 2014, 3:31 AM

(In reply to MaxBioHazard from comment #0)

Hi, thank you immensely for the interest in Flow. As I said to Sunpriat, I'll have to ask the product manager what the specific timeline is for the next rollouts, and sadly it might be longer than desired (possibly a few months).

Partially because there's an upcoming staff change (a back-end developer is changing jobs), and partially because we recently enabled Flow at test pages on Frwiki and Hewiki, and they're giving us a lot of great feedback, feature-requests, and bug-reports (particularly i18n bugs), so the team needs to concentrate on those.

I read a google-translation of the discussion at Ruwiki last week, and I see that there has been a lot of discussion since then. I'll try to catch up with that soon, and answer some of the questions. (Or ask you for clarifications where the google-translation is terrible :)

Hope that helps. Ping me on-wiki, or via email, or on IRC, if you have any other questions.

• Elitre subscribed.Jan 16 2015, 6:04 PM

Sunpriat renamed this task from Testing Flow in ruwiki to Change the rights of user groups for Flow in ruwiki.Feb 20 2015, 2:39 PM

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I don't think we need to change the group permissions for Flow. First, we need to try as it is by default. Moreover consensus for change of rights was not.

Sunpriat, please, don't forgery my request.

Quiddity renamed this task from Testing Flow in ruwiki to Enable Flow for testing in ruwiki.Feb 20 2015, 7:20 PM

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Quiddity added projects: StructuredDiscussions, Collaboration-Team-Triage.

Quiddity merged a task: T90146: Enable Flow in ruwiki.

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Quiddity added subscribers: EBernhardson, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper.

Note, the developers are currently working on the last few tweaks, so that we can enable "Edit posts" for autoconfirmed. (everywhere)

As for "Delete topic/post", those are strictly intended to just be for admins, who have the "delete [page]" right. However, all users have the "Hide topic/post" right, which is equivalent to "undo/rollback/revert".
They'll release it with that default setup, and then await feedback about specific use-cases, once it is being used/tested.

I won't guess at a final launch date, but "very soon". :)

tomasz removed a project: Shell.Feb 23 2015, 7:40 PM

EBernhardson added a subtask: T89198: R3. Add "undo" functionality to edited Flow posts (Russian).Feb 24 2015, 10:02 PM

• Mattflaschen-WMF removed a subtask: T89198: R3. Add "undo" functionality to edited Flow posts (Russian).Feb 25 2015, 1:54 AM

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• DannyH closed subtask T90670: S4. Enable Flow post editing for autoconfirmed users on MediaWiki.org, enwiki, ruwiki as Resolved.Mar 26 2015, 8:43 PM

It's enabled there, so someone just needs to use https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EnableFlow to enable it on appropriate pages when we're ready.

It's done, the 2 Flow pages are now live at ruwiki.

Responding to the note:

Note: specific configuration change recommendations: "grants rights "Edit post", "Delete topic" and "Delete post" to all autoconfirmed users."

Edit post for all users was just released today.

Users can remove inappropriate topics and posts from the page with the "Hide" feature. Hidden comments are still visible in history and contributions, the same way that they are when a user reverts an edit. Users with the ability to delete pages can also delete or suppress Flow posts.

So there are now Flow pages at :

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:Форум/Новости/Flow
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:Песочница/Flow

Thanks for your patience while we worked on the edit feature! I'm looking forward to seeing what you think of Flow.

Liuxinyu970226 unsubscribed.Mar 27 2015, 12:04 AM

Sunpriat reopened this task as Open.Mar 31 2015, 10:50 AM

@DannyH
were created the additional pages, please remove additional pages
the correct page:

additional pages:

• Mattflaschen-WMF unsubscribed.Apr 1 2015, 4:00 AM

• DannyH closed this task as Resolved.Apr 1 2015, 7:36 PM

• DannyH moved this task from Untriaged to Resolved on the Collaboration-Team-Triage board.

@DannyH
We've got to remove the accidental boards that you created at

Might have to wait until board deletion is implemented.

Sunpriat added a comment.Apr 2 2015, 6:03 AM

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Oh, I'm so sorry about all of this -- making pages in the wrong place, and then not realizing there was conversation on this ticket!

We'll talk today about how soon we can delete those boards. I apologize for making a mess.

• DannyH renamed this task from Enable Flow for testing in ruwiki to Delete extra boards on ruwiki (was:Enable Flow for testing in ruwiki).Apr 2 2015, 4:15 PM

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• DannyH added a project: Collaboration-Team-Sprint-T-2015-04-08.

• DannyH edited subtasks, added: T90970: T10. Board deletion action does not appear in tabs, T90969: T4. Deleting board does not delete the topics or make them inaccessible, T90973: T9. When deleting board or topic, contributions should move from Contributions to DeletedContributions; removed: T90670: S4. Enable Flow post editing for autoconfirmed users on MediaWiki.org, enwiki, ruwiki.Apr 2 2015, 7:58 PM

Okay, we talked about it. We're currently finishing up some fixes to make deleting Flow boards work properly. When those are released, then I'll be able to delete these two accidental boards.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience!

I'm going to take this out of this sprint & hold onto it for the next one.

• DannyH removed a project: Collaboration-Team-Sprint-T-2015-04-08.Apr 2 2015, 8:02 PM

• DannyH moved this task from Resolved to Ready for next sprint on the Collaboration-Team-Triage board.

• Spage unsubscribed.Apr 6 2015, 8:35 PM

• DannyH closed subtask T90969: T4. Deleting board does not delete the topics or make them inaccessible as Resolved.Apr 9 2015, 12:57 AM

• DannyH closed subtask T90973: T9. When deleting board or topic, contributions should move from Contributions to DeletedContributions as Resolved.

• DannyH closed this task as Resolved.May 4 2015, 11:18 PM

• DannyH moved this task from Ready for next sprint to Resolved on the Collaboration-Team-Triage board.

• DannyH closed subtask T90970: T10. Board deletion action does not appear in tabs as Resolved.May 7 2015, 7:26 PM